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'''Roaming Discussion of 1916 with Neil Cummings'''<br>
 
'''Roaming Discussion of 1916 with Neil Cummings'''<br>
 
March 18, 2010 - Triangle Space, Chelsea College of Art and Design<br>
 
March 18, 2010 - Triangle Space, Chelsea College of Art and Design<br>
'''In attendance:''' Neil Cummings, Kristen Lovelock, Scott Schwager, Maria Chritaforatou and Me
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'''In attendance:''' Neil Cummings, Kristen Lovelock, Scott Schwager, Maria Christoforatou and Me
  
*This "informal critique" was not structured like the classic "the artist doesn't talk" variety. (As, for instance, in [[''Show Not Tell'')
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*This "informal critique" was not structured like the classic "the artist doesn't talk" variety. (As, for instance, in [[Show Not Tell Seminar Series]].)
*Remaining focused on one's "subject" - for example, Kristen's concern with co-habitation - should she or shouldn't she move in with her bodyfriend? That's the focus - the references to surrealism and holidays confused this focused - They may well have been a focus in their own right - it just wasn't Kristen's focus and it wasn't working in the service of her focus...
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*Recurrent theme - what it means to focus on one's "subject" (the subject of an artwork) - for example, Kristen's concern with co-habitation - should she or shouldn't she move in with her boyfriend? That's the focus. The references to surrealism and holidays confused this focus - They may well have be a focus in their own right (which was my initial reading of the work) - they just weren't the artist's main focus in this piece; nor were they working in the service of her focus...
*Lots of discussion around the frame of the gallery and the power of that frame - there's a tendency to:  
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*Lots of discussion around the frame of the gallery and the power of this frame - there's a tendency to:  
#Make stuff that looks like art - for example, how Kristen hung her bathroom paintings - they went from being in a shelf to being in a gallery  
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#Make stuff that looks like art - for example, how the bathroom paintings were hung - they went from being on a shelf (in a real bathroom) to being in a gallery  
#To indulge in creative installation - install works in a creative fashion - play artist during the installation process when instead it would be more useful just to be an installer - connects to making art aesthetic
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#To indulge in "creative" installation - the artist forgets to become installer - or the installer plays at being an artist - the result: the hang is aestheticized in non-essential ways.
#To insufficiently consider the power of the gallery - Maria's painting should have either been bigger or smaller - as it was, its domestic scale wasn't working...
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#To insufficiently consider the power of the gallery - Maria's painting should have been bigger or smaller - as it was, its domestic scale wasn't working in the weird space that is the Triangle Gallery.  
*Scott's seesaw provocative - fun and absurd...For Scott: interested in the balance of power. But as Neil observed, this seesaw was weighted in the middle and so this balance wasn't literalized in the artwork. And yet, I know I, for one, felt subconscious bout my own body (my weight) when riding the seesaw and so looked for people who where about my size to ride with...
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*Scott's seesaw is provocative - fun and absurd...The artist is interested in the balance of power and engaging with the seesaw enacts this idea. But as Neil observed, this one was weighted in the middle - the balance issue wasn't literalized in the artwork. And yet, I know that I, for one, felt self-conscious about my own body when riding the seesaw - I looked for people who where about my size to ride with...
*Conversing while riding this seesaw...(playful) physical activity allowed/encouraged a different kind of engagement.  
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*Conversing while riding this seesaw...(playful) physical activity allowed/encouraged a different kind of engagement. Embodied approach...
  
 
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Latest revision as of 13:14, 24 November 2010

Roaming Discussion of 1916 with Neil Cummings
March 18, 2010 - Triangle Space, Chelsea College of Art and Design
In attendance: Neil Cummings, Kristen Lovelock, Scott Schwager, Maria Christoforatou and Me

  • This "informal critique" was not structured like the classic "the artist doesn't talk" variety. (As, for instance, in Show Not Tell Seminar Series.)
  • Recurrent theme - what it means to focus on one's "subject" (the subject of an artwork) - for example, Kristen's concern with co-habitation - should she or shouldn't she move in with her boyfriend? That's the focus. The references to surrealism and holidays confused this focus - They may well have be a focus in their own right (which was my initial reading of the work) - they just weren't the artist's main focus in this piece; nor were they working in the service of her focus...
  • Lots of discussion around the frame of the gallery and the power of this frame - there's a tendency to:
  1. Make stuff that looks like art - for example, how the bathroom paintings were hung - they went from being on a shelf (in a real bathroom) to being in a gallery
  2. To indulge in "creative" installation - the artist forgets to become installer - or the installer plays at being an artist - the result: the hang is aestheticized in non-essential ways.
  3. To insufficiently consider the power of the gallery - Maria's painting should have been bigger or smaller - as it was, its domestic scale wasn't working in the weird space that is the Triangle Gallery.
  • Scott's seesaw is provocative - fun and absurd...The artist is interested in the balance of power and engaging with the seesaw enacts this idea. But as Neil observed, this one was weighted in the middle - the balance issue wasn't literalized in the artwork. And yet, I know that I, for one, felt self-conscious about my own body when riding the seesaw - I looked for people who where about my size to ride with...
  • Conversing while riding this seesaw...(playful) physical activity allowed/encouraged a different kind of engagement. Embodied approach...

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